As the title state says, this is More or less what kiwis think about the concurrent political tribalism that is currently been happening over the years
I deeply disagree.Tribalism is normal, healthy human behavior
This isn't what people mean by "tribalism", what people mean by tribalism is a biased worldview based only in your own first hand experiences and prejuices, "for the hammer every problem is a nail", this has nothing to do with nationalism the fuck are you talking aboutWe shouldn't punish people for wanting to be near those similar to and away from those different from themselves.
Oh the irony, tribalism is all about unfair expectations.Those who are forcing these unfair expectations
In the comment section of the video he made a small comment showing the time stamps of the different parts. The one I was talking about is about 1 hour 20 or something like that. But you are right about social media playing a big part since he talks about that quite a bit in a part just before the part after that talking about political tribalism. TL;DR to it is how the internet has vastly changed our way of thinking and promotes political tribalism.So I don't know what specific part you wanted us to watch on the video OP but the guy concludes part 1 with a basic overview of the concept of negative liberty, as appreciated by the founders. He doesn't name it, but the first source basically describes it. Negative liberty is essentially when people are left to their own devices. You are free from X because it is leaving you alone. The opposite concept is positive liberty, wherein you are actively freed from something, such as poverty or slavery.
The reason I'm bringing this up is because negative vs positive liberty is a pretty core differentiating factor in people's politics and one of the many divides that informs the whole conservative vs liberal scene. Liberals' entire thought process is positive, i.e. people must be actively freed from things like underemployment, discrimination, etc etc.
This ties back into political tribalism. Liberals, or the American left, make moves where they perceive to be faults in the system, and conservatives don't like that because their preference is to be left alone. That sounds like a gross oversimplification, partially because it is, but I think you can find this energy rings true among the rank and file that buy into the surface level beliefs of these two main thought processes. This obviously isn't a hard line organizational thing, I'm sure plenty of moderate liberals want things like abortion and gay marriage to be left alone and not undone by activist conservatives whom they see as regressive, likewise one of my earliest political exposure was the gun community, and they've not only been fighting against bans but for things like easier personal carry all this time.
Basically this is a regular, if not rough, pattern of behavior. There are people who want things to be changed and there are people who are fine without going through that effort. The reason why this is flaring up, I would venture, is due to the internet and ease of exposure to radical politics. It is all too easy to run into a communist or fascist online these days, and for them to organize. That's why we're getting street brawls in places like Portland. All of this has made them more noticeable, meaning it is easier for them to reach into the mainstream and get the 'normies' discussing things and eventually drawing lines and taking sides. I think another reason is that those who would stand up for minorities are finding smaller and smaller niches to work with, which leads to microscopic communities like transexuals also being thrust into the mainstream. It begs the question from those with more conservative energy: how much do I have to accommodate for such a small population?
I kind of feel like this entire post is incoherent, maybe I should head to bed.
What do you propose instead of decentralization of political authority?I deeply disagree.
This isn't what people mean by "tribalism", what people mean by tribalism is a biased worldview based only in your own first hand experiences and prejuices, "for the hammer every problem is a nail", this has nothing to do with nationalism the fuck are you talking about
Oh the irony, tribalism is all about unfair expectations.
I really don't follow your rant, your argument is a fucking non-sequitur, the fuck has it do with what OP posted?
Disagree we're seeing polarization. There's too many poles, we're fragmented, and the groups trying to bring everything together have very bad intentions.In my opinion what we're seeing right now is just the death throes of the political schools of thought that have dominated our society for the last hundred years or so. Essentially, the political realities of "right" and "left" have mutated so far at this point that they bear very little resemblance to what they meant at the start of modern era, and as a result the political concepts of "right" and "left" as we have understood them are becoming meaningless, as they no longer align with their respective realities. Just like hundred years ago we saw tribalism of this kind at the birth bangs of modern era, now we see such as the adherents of these dying creeds flock beneath their respective banners, desperately grasping at some meaning in a world that is spiralling beyond their ability to control or to quantify. In other words, it's nothing new, just a pattern that keeps on repeating itself as the ages march onward.
What's sad is it wasn't that long ago that America basically was just that, things had reached a sort of "equilibrium" in the 2000s between the races and gender to where people were more or less free to just live their lives and carve out their own little corners of happiness.where we are each left to our own devices and neither side faces an existential struggle for dominance of the other in order to survive.
The tribalism is mostly with boomer Republicans and progressive Democrats. The rest, like me, don't give a shit.I doubt that tribalism is that strong in politics, because if it were, then political movements wouldn't eat their own all the time.
Politics aren't 100% about race. It's about running government agencies, it's about regulating what's good for the world, and civil rights.What do you propose instead of decentralization of political authority?
I assume the worst about human nature and advocate for policies which at worst limit the damage people can do, and at best turn our flawed natures towards productive ends. Trying to fix humanity and seeking utopia always fails.
Anyways, you have some very strong words for my beliefs; why don't you put yours out there if you are so confident they are superior to mine?
For all of human history up to about the 1970s it was about race, ethnicity, religion, denomination, and language. What's happening now isn't an aberration but a return to normal.Politics aren't 100% about race. It's about running government agencies, it's about regulating what's good for the world, and civil rights.
Quit letting BLM and race-based orgs make you think politics is all about race relations.