Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

Grumpy Pickle Rick

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Yeah I kinda gleaned that after taking a closer look at that snippet of the wiki, that there's a "mainverse" and that this 282 is an alternate universe. Point still stands, Jerry created an actual fucking CWCville. I'm just waiting for the dimensional merge to be alluded to.

If nothing else, I'm glad this exists. Jerry is creating literal fanfictions of himself in an actual wish-fulfillment scenario where he gets to do whatever. Nobody well-adjusted does this, and the only kinds of people that would enable this are the 6 year old tumblrtards and fake trannies who think it's uwu so cute instead of bizarre and creepy (especially if there are children involved, which, knowing Jerry, there fucking are).

Who's G though? The new Lizzy? Are they real or are they a made up GF (openly made up or otherwise)?
Jerry is the Canadian Chris Chan. That's already been established. Look at the evidence:

1. She's a hypocrite.

2. She writes fanfiction with overpowered. versions of herself because it's wish fulfillment for her.

3. She's a talentless hack.

4. She created her own CWCVille.

5. She cares more about her fucking fanfiction than she does real people.

6. She doesn't have a real job.

7. She's an ugly man in reality.

8. She has a God complex.

The only difference between her and the other Chris is that she hasn't suffered the consequences of her actions...yet.
 
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1911JD

I am so tired of this shit, I swear.
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Jerry is the Canadian Chris Chan. That's already been established. Look at the evidence:

1. She's autistic.

2. She writes fanfiction with overpowered OCs because it's wish fulfillment for her.

3. She's a talentless hack.

4. She hates everyone and everything except for herself and the thing she likes.

5. She cares more about her fucking fanfiction than she does real people.

7. She doesn't have a real job.

8. She's an ugly man in reality.

The only difference between her and the other Chris is that she hasn't suffered the consequences of her actions...yet.
Preaching to the choir, I know all of this already (though number one is technically disputed, and number four sounds... redundant?).

I can add like 20 more things to that list but you're missing one big thing:

He's a chronic hypocrite who either knows he says things that are contrary to one another or isn't self-aware enough to realize.

Given his view on hypocrisy ("It's better to be a hypocrite and right than be forthright and wrong") you could say it's the former but given his ego it could also be the latter.

You, uh, missed 6, by the way.
 

SubarashiiRage

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every mention of political science that Lily speaks has to be accompanied by "citation needed" (the left is 3 to 1? where that is a fact)

and constantly mixing economic policy with social policy(as if the existence of rich people is a crime punishable by death)

Lily does not accept horseshoe theory and says that true communism has not yet been implemented and when it is, it will be a utopia (the same mentality of every communist dictator)

Lily ignores problems caused by communism
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and she still thinks Canada is a socialist country
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there is no such thing as a perfect economic model, the communist model has failed so many times that people should already have fallen in need of massive repairs,
everyone already knows the definition of insanity
 

Grumpy Pickle Rick

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every mention of political science that Lily speaks has to be accompanied by "citation needed" (the left is 3 to 1? where that is a fact)

and constantly mixing economic policy with social policy(as if the existence of rich people is a crime punishable by death)

Lily does not accept horseshoe theory and says that true communism has not yet been implemented and when it is, it will be a utopia (the same mentality of every communist dictator)

Lily ignores problems caused by communism
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and she still thinks Canada is a socialist country
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there is no such thing as a perfect economic model, the communist model has failed so many times that people should already have fallen in need of massive repairs,
everyone already knows the definition of insanity
Lily is so stupid, she doesn't know her own country is a constitutional monarchy, not a socialist. I looked it up.

Is she really that uneducated?
 

Grumpy Pickle Rick

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Preaching to the choir, I know all of this already (though number one is technically disputed, and number four sounds... redundant?).

I can add like 20 more things to that list but you're missing one big thing:

He's a chronic hypocrite who either knows he says things that are contrary to one another or isn't self-aware enough to realize.

Given his view on hypocrisy ("It's better to be a hypocrite and right than be forthright and wrong") you could say it's the former but given his ego it could also be the latter.

You, uh, missed 6, by the way.
Thank you for your feedback. I went back and made some changes.

Though I have to ask is Lily being autistic disputable? I mean she shows all the symptoms.
 

DevilsAdvocate963

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Thank you for your feedback. I went back and made some changes.

Though I have to ask is Lily being autistic disputable? I mean she shows all the symptoms.
I found these couple posts with a brief search. I'm sure there's more in the thread. Just search stuff like "diagnosed" or something.
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Oh, and he recently deleted this.
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Son Goku Baku

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Why delete that? It's stupid because none of those phrases has anything to do with the characters they are related to (except the Malificent one, that one is amusing), but also harmless stupid?

On another note, I'm frankly surprised that the position of Liliana about the coronavirus is to be too cool to care because quarantine also means she can't go fucking with a bunch of strangers and not cuddle with any of them. You'd expect someone who claims to be so sexual and horny and such a "stupid slut" would be insanely needy for any sexual attention because she can't go out to get it from irl strangers anymore. But she still acts like it was nothing... further making me believe that those "12 o 13" people she fucked with were all lies and she is perfectly happy beating her meat watching some underage sex scene at home.

It's something that got my attention because Twitter especially is full with people being frustrated that they can't have sex with someone. I'd expected easily Liliana being part of that trend.
 

thebananaonion

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Lily does not accept horseshoe theory and says that true communism has not yet been implemented and when it is, it will be a utopia (the same mentality of every communist dictator)

this would imply that the left and the right, more so the sjw's and the nazis have something in common.... something lily does NOT thing is the case. even tho both radical sideds call for the same thing
fuck one group of people, we're supperior. I hate the opposite sex because victim complex, fuck the Trump's Chosen People/christians.

It's like one of those adlib games, you have a story but in some spaces you can write your own word in. same story, just slightly different terminolagy, same meaning.
 

1911JD

I am so tired of this shit, I swear.
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Thank you for your feedback. I went back and made some changes.

Though I have to ask is Lily being autistic disputable? I mean she shows all the symptoms.
It's disputable because, like I linked, he's had three different stories about whether or not he actually has it, and the supposed fact that he's autistic only came up when he was trying to defend or support a point that Sheldon Cooper was some kind of autistic role model, and because it only ever came up in instances where he was trying to use his supposed autism as a major driving factor as to why he's correct on a subject, that should raise questions of its legitimacy

That's something he did (and likely still does) often, he'd artificially try to inflate his credentials on a subject to make himself seem more authoritative on it than he actually is

"I'm autistic and I think Sheldon Cooper is a good role model for autistics"
"I'm LGBT and I think X is good/bad LGBT representation"
"I was a camp counselor so my opinion the behavior of children is correct and yours isn't"
"I was raped so my opinion on this story touching on rape is correct"
etc
It's kind of a variation of the "friend argument" that he likes to throw around a lot when he likes to dismiss criticism because he needs to be the expert on the matter
 
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Grumpy Pickle Rick

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It's disputable because, like I linked, he's had three different stories about whether or not he actually has it, and the supposed fact that he's autistic only came up when he was trying to defend or support a point that Sheldon Cooper was some kind of autistic role model, and because it only ever came up in instances where he was trying to use his supposed autism as a major driving factor as to why he's correct on a subject, that should raise questions of its legitimacy

That's something he did (and likely still does) often, he'd artificially try to inflate his credentials on a subject to make himself seem more authoritative on it than he actually is

"I'm autistic and I think Sheldon Cooper is a good role model for autistics"
"I'm LGBT and I think X is good/bad LGBT representation"
"I was a camp counselor so my opinion the behavior of children is correct and yours isn't"
"I was raped so my opinion on this story touching on rape is correct"
etc
It's kind of a variation of the "friend argument" that he likes to throw around a lot when he likes to dismiss criticism because he needs to be the expert on the matter
I see what you're saying, yeah, that makes sense. Lily is a chronic liar and he'll say anything to get people on his side.
 
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This is one of those times I can't tell if Lily is being obtuse on purpose or not. Like she seems to come at the "lore problem" from the position of "all those fan theory videos are 100 percent serious and everyone is super fucking invested in even the dumbest of hot takes" but 90 percent of those "What if white diamond is greg's mother" youtube videos are literally just clickbait. They're like fanfiction starter prompts. I made the mistake of looking at one and it was thirty minutes of solid nothing.

So we know Lily is prone to glomming on to outrage for clicks, you think she'd be able to recognize other people doing the same thing in a more benign format.
 
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One Man Bland

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I can take a stab at that.

It seems that PokeMadhouse originally started as Lily just setting up a silly scenario and wanting to do silly things within the context of Pokemon. Gardevoir, being Lily's favoritest Pokemon ever, was of course there and was of course her best friend, but she was also using G as a subversion of the typical Gardevoir-- whereas Gardevoir oftentimes have their 'devotion to their trainer' interpreted in a distinctly, um... feminine way, G was brash, sassy, and originally seemed to be disgusted by the idea.

Before I go on, this occurred to be a little earlier today-- stories are defined by their stakes. These can range from deeply personal to world-ending, depending on your intended scope. For a slice of life comedy, this can be anything from tackling a character's common neuroses to a short story about somebody trying to buy tard cum and encountering a series of progressively stupider events on the way. Even in an Ask blog setting the characters usually have some kind of internal motivation for behaving the way they do, and that winds up defining their responses to the Askers.

Lily is a bad writer for a lot of reasons, but I think she has some understanding that writing usually involves some kind of core concept. In the case of Madhouse... there isn't anything. Lily just hangs out in a house. She has girlfriends that show up sometimes. Her Pokemon are... you know, there. Sometimes Butterfree is a little cute. But there's simply nothing going on. Nobody is defined by needs or desires. Nobody strives for anything. We never see Lily interacting with her girlfriends to even get a sense that maybe she wants love and affection, the Pokemon are just accessories, even G is defined less by who is and more by the absence of a concept. She isn't like those other Gardevoir who have been groomed to want to fuck their trainers, but what she is in return isn't clear. And you can't have a character defined just by absences.

(Well, you can, but that's usually a case of dealing in abstract or existential concepts and Lily ain't about that.)

I mean, like I said, even in slice of life comedy you can pull a story out of just going to the grocery store. Seinfeld famously was a show about nothing, but the interplay between the characters -- their own wants and desires and personalities clashing against each other -- is what made it fun to watch. At the end of the day nothing happened in a narrative sense, but that wasn't the point. Nothing wrong with that idea, either; the point of slice of life is to watch these character's lives and these little silly, dumb, or dramatic moments that they go through.

But introducing actual challenges to the house, or interpersonal strife, or even the idea of things not just being perfect in Lily's world is somehow abhorrent, even though author!Lily has an entire backstory for her character that she could plumb for interesting content. (And yes, I know, Lily can't write so it wouldn't actually be interesting, but at the very least things happened and there's conflict in the background. Related, but Lily has also screamed about how backstory is pointless and you should always be showing the most interesting part of a character's life so why do we see her comic self-insert just sitting around the house all day when she used to be a League Enforcer breaking up Pokemon sex trafficking rings or whatever? Why don't we see G actually struggling with her decision to mind-rape Lily instead of being told everything after the fact? Even things that are happening in the present have the wrong focus; the whole thing with Bonnie literally has the scientist say 'Guess we gotta kill it!' and then it just smash-cuts to Lily looking vaguely disappointing in a corner of the room, why not show her actually protesting? I know the answer, this is all rhetorical.)

The comic's just spinning its wheels, frankly, but then Lily starts getting messages from her fans. She has admitted that she only started doing Lilyvoir stuff because her fans demanded it, and she probably made it the most demented, ridiculous interpretation she could as a Fuck You to them. Yeah, you wanna see Lily in a relationship with G? Guess what motherfuckers it's gross and toxic and suddenly we have actual conflict and I'm not gonna lie-- if Lily had actually buckled down and explored this fucked up relationship she wrote, it would be legitimately interesting. Fucked up, but, you know... something would be happening. Characters would be clashing. Questions about morality would be coming up and the answers would be messy.

So Lily has introduced conflict, and that's great. Maybe she's even interested in exploring some of it-- I mean I guess she must be if she's been following this for so long and just keeps dipping back into the well, refusing to let G ever make real progress. But she's also in a situation where real conflict can't actually happen because otherwise her self-insert would have to deal with something, so instead it becomes a series of vignettes where you're threatened with something possibly happening and then it just fizzles because writing is hard you guys. She's probably also enjoying the idea of her self-insert exerting absolute emotional control over this incredibly powerful, protective entity that would literally die for her while she barely has to engage with it.

So I think the situation is twofold. Lily keeps bringing up 'power dynamics' and I suspect she very much likes to play with this particular power dynamic and is doing everything in her power to force it in place while not actually thinking about the consequences or implications, she just wants to get to what she wants in the easiest way possible, which is instant gratification for both her comic self and her real self. And her real self gets instant gratification from fans praising her and she's figured out that Lilyvoir drama probably attracts the most interactive attention. As long as she keeps teasing her fans, she'll keep getting that endorphin rush, so it's both in her best interests to keep stringing people along and also just the path of least resistance to never change the status quo.



tl;dr
Lily is bad at writing and desperate for attention.
This actually reminds me of a discussion I witnessed about another bad webcomic: Questionable Content.

The thing about conflict in a story is that it only works if the writer is willing to make their characters at least a little uncomfortable, and a common criticism of QC is that its absolutely unwilling to do that. At most a character will be mildly inconvenienced, if even that, and it will barely last for more than a page. A lot of fans used to say that that was the appeal, QC was supposed to be toothless and boring and devoid of direction because even the mildest SoL problem would be too much for their delicate sensibilities.

Madhouse I think has a similar problem, Orchard clearly can’t stand inconveniencing his self-inserts outside of melodrama designed to make viewers go "poor baby uwu," but it‘s made all the more glaring by how fucked up the context is.

Although I’m not sure the Lilyvoir stuff is a middle finger to fans considering his history with writing Pokémon porn. It comes off more like he‘s trying to have his cake and eat it in that he wants to have it happen, but found a niche in the kind of Tumblr fandoms that would tear him a new asshole if he pulled the trigger on it - so the compromise is this weird in-between where Lily and G have all the trappings of a fandom ship - a soul bond, weird sex jokes and situations involving the two of the, other characters shipping it in-universe, etc. - but then puts Lily in this virtuous pedo/forbidden love role to claim she’ll never act on it. If anything, I think Orchard is deliberately putting in ship-teases, so to speak, as a not-so-subtle wink to the Poke-diddlers out there. "Slow burn" is genre in fanfics for a reason after all.
 

Private Pyle

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You guys ever see those images that are meant to simulate what it's like to have a stroke?
I didn't think you could do the same thing with words, but there's a first for everything I suppose.
She does realize that all the Easter eggs are invoked by the creator and fan theories are actively encouraged by him, right?
I get that she has a stick up her ass whenever don’t shut up and consoom, but she’s just missing the whole point of a show. Can’t wait till Owl House becomes more lore focused.
Not sure what being straight has to do with it.
Something something straight people are oppressive for existing.
Ironically, man people who push male/female ships are actually bisexual rather than straight. Who’d a thunk it.
 

DevilsAdvocate963

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New stream.

By the way, now that I've fully caught up on Peet's streams in the YouTube archive, I've decided to finally try things a little differently.
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I just wanna show off something that isn't of any particular significance but is kinda funny if you try to think about it for too long.
The 1-3 alternate universe of the multiverse around this webcomic.
Aside from being a literal one off joke the details here are so trite to the point that you'd wanna assume it's parody. the trivia section includes that it's 1-3 which is a play on 13 being an unlucky number because of how unlucky and unfortunate this version of Lily and Gardevoir are.
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And the "best" detail. this version of comci!Lily not socialising with anyone is a "minor" change. I'm laughing because; What friends? we only ever see Comic!lily talking to Mikaila, the one time we ever saw her talking to a friend they weren't in a romantic relationship with was Sketchy and that was desginated a non canon one-off. and the only other humans we see Lily interact with were the scientist from that lab, and whats-her face who's whole purpose was to tell ComicLily that she was in a tabloid(which naturally amounted to nothing despite the comic establishing that shit gets inspected by the authorities but I digress) Comic!lily has no friends.

It's amazing how bad the writing is even down to the bullshit wiki trivia
 

Ben Laden

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The only thing Lily doesn't have in common with other popular cows at this point (DSP, Gurg, CWC) is that she isn't having financial issues.

She isn't desperate and constantly begging for money yet, anyways.