Is drawn child pornography (loli) bad? -

Is OP a pedophile?

  • yes

    Votes: 446 79.6%
  • no

    Votes: 69 12.3%
  • it should be regulated, not outright banned

    Votes: 45 8.0%

  • Total voters
    560

Toilet Man

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And it's fueling a desire to eventually try and recreate a scenario IRL. Fapping to regular porn doesn't satiate your lust as far as I'm aware, it slowly makes one more desperate to get some actual puss, don't see why loli/cub porn is any different.
 

Eclair's Shota Paradise

God stole my dick and i'm gonna kill him
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Lolisho content isn't inherently bad, imo. It's like other fetishes people have that they never indulge in irl, especially where there's the unspoken 'it's fictional, so it's okay'. If someone can't distinguish a fictional character being underage for a living human being, that isn't the fault of someone who draws lolisho. Plus, it's identical to the 'playing violent videogames makes you violent' argument. If you don't like it, cool. If you do, cool. Just don't be fuckin' weird to actual kids.
 

Slap47

Hehe xd
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And it's fueling a desire to eventually try and recreate a scenario IRL. Fapping to regular porn doesn't satiate your lust as far as I'm aware, it slowly makes one more desperate to get some actual puss, don't see why loli/cub porn is any different.
Is that really the case? The countries with the thirstiest men tend to be the ones that cover up women and ban porn.
 

soft breathing

i'm tired.
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Per se I'd jump on the whole 'it's just fiction, i don't care' train.

BUT I've seen too many self-proclaimed lolicons also be super weird towards kids and heard stuff like "I only don't fuck a kid because I don't want to ruin their life" or "whenever I see a child I get the huge urge to hug/touch it, not sexual of course!". I don't know. It just kinda seems like a red flag for some people.

But then again, usually people don't talk about their fetishes in public, especially if they know society looks down on that exact fetish. So I just assume people who out themselves as 'lolicons' and want acceptance for that don't have all of their marbles together in general.

Also where do should you draw the line? On realistic-looking 3D-models of kids? Drawings? Fanfiction? Games?
 

Autumnal Equinox

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Technically no, since they're not actually doing anything to harm a kid.

From a personal viewpoint, I find it sick, still see them as a pedo and not someone I'd trust around real kids. It's a little disquieting to me how many people online try to make excuses for it. Like someone else said earlier, these are the people who make the foot fetishists and (some) of the furfags look downright vanilla.
 

TerribleIdeas™

Master of Cunt-Puppets
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Per se I'd jump on the whole 'it's just fiction, i don't care' train.

BUT I've seen too many self-proclaimed lolicons also be super weird towards kids and heard stuff like "I only don't fuck a kid because I don't want to ruin their life" or "whenever I see a child I get the huge urge to hug/touch it, not sexual of course!". I don't know. It just kinda seems like a red flag for some people.
That first part sounds more like the issue we've chronicled with JY - sick fucks gravitate towards groups where they believe they and get away with their sick fuckery, unopposed.

But then again, usually people don't talk about their fetishes in public, especially if they know society looks down on that exact fetish. So I just assume people who out themselves as 'lolicons' and want acceptance for that don't have all of their marbles together in general.
I think it's that problem developed out of the exceptional end of the "sex positivity movement', with everyone assuming that being sex-positive means they're allowed to detail their sexual escapades, when what it really means is I'm not going to suggest legislation that prevents consensual, non-harmful sexual acts. As far as I'm concerned, the gov't shouldn't be involved in whether consenting adults fuck each other, or choose to engage in contractual arrangements governing those relationships, but if the gov't doesn't step in to protect children and animals, I have ammunition.

Also where do should you draw the line? On realistic-looking 3D-models of kids? Drawings? Fanfiction? Games?
At that part where no children are harmed in the production of it - if some autist wants to create a 3d VR waifu loli game, and doesn't require any children to create it, then no harm has occurred.
 

Toilet Man

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Is that really the case? The countries with the thirstiest men tend to be the ones that cover up women and ban porn.
A common point. I'm not sure how much validity it has, nor how much validity what I said has, seems like men are thirsty regardless of whether they're from repressive hellholes like Saudi Arabia or from fountains of degeneracy and sexual liberation like L.A.
 

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A common point. I'm not sure how much validity it has, nor how much validity what I said has, seems like men are thirsty regardless of whether they're from repressive hellholes like Saudi Arabia or from fountains of degeneracy and sexual liberation like L.A.
It has plenty of validity. You got countries where religious bullshit is on state level, not just culturally represses normal urges. Nothing good comes from repression or oppression, at some point it will come out. Catholic countries are slightly better because they don't separate people into dimis and righteous, with dimis being a fair game for perversions.
 
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Toilet Man

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It has plenty of validity. You got countries where religious bullshit is on state level, not just culturally represses normal urges. Nothing good comes from repression or oppression, at some point it will come out. Catholic countries are slightly better because they don't separate people into dimis and righteous, with dimis being a fair game for perversions.
Would those religious sexually repressive countries be better or worse if porn were easier to get hold of, but nothing else about the country is changed?
 

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Would those religious sexually repressive countries be better or worse if porn were easier to get hold of, but nothing else about the country is changed?
they get porn. In fact before internets, an Israeli friend used to tell stories about swapping prono mags for weed with local arabs in border towns. Also alcohol can also be had despite haram.

I think it's the cultural stigma and guilt tripping that fucks their brain, more than availability.
 
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Toilet Man

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they get porn. In fact before internets, an Israeli friend used to tell stories about swapping prono mags for weed with local arabs in border towns. Also alcohol can also be had despite haram.

I think it's the cultural stigma and guilt tripping that fucks their brain, more than availability.
So there's a stigma and a guilt-trip culture, but they can watch porn? Sounds like this goes to my original point, if those countries eradicated porn, would that make it easier to fit into the repressed culture or harder? Is it easier to repress lust if you have no pornography to fuel it? That gets to my original point about whether loli porn fuels pedophilic desires or not.
 

Bad Headspace

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Weebs would have it much easier if they just wanted to fuck lolis in peace instead of trying to come up with super duper arguments to justify their fetishes. Seriously, if you feel the need to justify yourself with fancy stuff you know you are doing something bad.

Also there is a difference between loli and loli. It depends on the context because you can clearly see when it was intended to be an actual kid. Considering japanese and weebs are as good at being subtle as a nuke going off, you can clearly tell when it's pedo bait.
 

The Demon Pimp of Razgriz

Still Pimpin
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ehh this one is kinda questionable, since plenty of adults look like children. i myself look like i'm somewhere between 12-14, so arguably if someone were into me they're a pedo?? i guess it depends
Yeah, this statement is just hyperbolic. There are plenty of people who look young naturally, and there are conditions that makes some appear to physically age slowly and even appear childlike (this is referred to as Ateliosis or proportional dwarfism). So are we saying that anyone who dates those people, even if they know their real age, is a pedophile? That's just absurd.
 
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