Is drawn child pornography (loli) bad? -

Is OP a pedophile?

  • yes

    Votes: 446 79.6%
  • no

    Votes: 69 12.3%
  • it should be regulated, not outright banned

    Votes: 45 8.0%

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The Demon Pimp of Razgriz

Still Pimpin
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May I advance a theory of mine that's relevant to this?

I believe that sublimation is ultimately a bad thing.

The usual defense for stuff like loli and violent vidya is that it's sublimation, allowing for the individual to satisfy their need for something without doing the real thing.

The problem is that it's generally known that the more you indulge something, the more your appetite grows for it. In the case of sublimation, the more you sublimate your desire, the more you want to. In a small enough amount it may not matter, just like how most people's appetites have an equilibrium. However, many people have a tendency to go beyond that (get addicted), and some things especially lend themselves to that.

In that case, the more you sublimate, the more you need to sublimate, and eventually it gets to the point where the sublimation no longer satisfies and you need the real thing. The classic, if admittedly contestable, example is Ted Bundy, who claimed that his addiction to violent porn gradually spiraled out of control until he started committing actual murder-rape.

The best way to reduce a bad behavior caused a bad thought is, sheeeeit, DON'T THINK ABOUT IT. Repression isn't good but indulgence isn't either.

TLDR: Wacking your gack to little girl cartoons will make you want to whack it even more, and eventually it won't be enough and you'll want to rape the real thing.
The problem with that logic is that there is no actual proof of it. For example, there is no proof at all that playing a shit load of violent video games will turn you into a murderer, or even make you more violent/aggressive in your general life. And the links between video games and violence are the most studied example of this we have. I refuse to believe that looking at a cartoon will make you a pedo rapist just as much as I refuse to believe that playing call of duty will make you a murderer. If you are willing to cross that line, there is something else much more fundamentally wrong with you, as normal people can tell the difference between fiction and real life.
 
The problem with that logic is that there is no actual proof of it. For example, there is no proof at all that playing a shit load of violent video games will turn you into a murderer, or even make you more violent/aggressive in your general life. And the links between video games and violence are the most studied example of this we have. I refuse to believe that looking at a cartoon will make you a pedo rapist just as much as I refuse to believe that playing call of duty will make you a murderer. If you are willing to cross that line, there is something else much more fundamentally wrong with you, as normal people can tell the difference between fiction and real life.
There are reasons to play violent video games besides murder-lust, though. People play them as a form of interactive fiction, as a way of playing out certain roles (soldier, outlaw, space marine, etc.), as ways of exploring worlds.

I also mentioned, in my own post, that most people are capable of experiencing something without it being a problem, but there is very obviously a group of people who can't. Sheesh, I swear I'm constantly having to make that argument on this site.

Unlike with violent video games, it's very difficult to justify any reason to jerk off to toon-porn other than that you, you know, like little girls. One is something everybody likes. One is something only degenerates like.

The one saving grace that cartoon kiddie porn has is that a lot of hentai addicts seem to develop so much of an attachment to the 2D art style that they can't relate to 3DPD anymore, and while I don't know if this is or isn't a thing in that porn, I wonder if they don't also portray children as acting much more like adults. There may, theoretically, be adults who are sexually attracted to the bodies of children but don't really feel a temptation to pedo out because they can't relate to them.*

*That part comes to mind for me because I can think of how younger (early 20s) women are prettier but I relate best to mid-20s women. I've never heard of a pedophile caring much about what goes on in a child's head, though.
 

Lackadaisical

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Drawings that sexualize children are still bad. The space that exists in our mind's eye is a real one and must be maintained to certain standards.
People can't control what they like or dislike. Trying to get somebody to "stop liking something" is essentially what gay conversion therapy was about, and considering that was a resounding failure I don't think it's possible to police your desires. If you try to, then eventually you just project your desires onto everybody else. That's how you end up with people pushing anti-homosexual stuff in public who are closeted gays, because they're ashamed of it and don't want to admit their own desires.

What about women with rape fantasies? Are those "tarnishing your mind's eye" as well, because they seem quite regular.
 

Kill all whales

Yang wen li.
True & Honest Fan
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Isn't. But you won't be able to explain this to someone who thinks it is. It's not even worth trying.

They will use every argument they have to prove you wrong. And if you disprove all these arguments, they will start screeching their feelings, like the poster above me, showing their true face-the true nature of their irrational hatred, "stop liking what I don't like, stop doing what I'm not doing".
Lol pedo
 

kūhaku

Dancing in the ruins
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While I despise pedophilia as much as the next kiwi, to play devils advocate here...


...isn't it odd how low Japan is per 100k, in comparison to most of Europe? Surely this hasn't changed drastically in the last 10 years, since Japan has become even more of a NEET culture? If they're the majority creator of loli content, is Europe therefore the majority consumer?
 
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Slap47

Hehe xd
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It's been argued against lolicon that the more you jack off to it the more likely for that person to rape actual kids.

I dont mind lolicon as long as they don't abuse actual kids.its still gross but I'll let it off.

The people who do jack of to it need to be closely monitored.
The more a person complains about lolicon the more likely they are to be a pedo. There seems to be much more correlation.


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Notgoodwithusernames

My wife’s boyfriend is my son
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on a personal level I despise the stuff but as long as its fictional and not real children I consider it tolerable... as long as its out of sight out of mind
 
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TalmudSperg

New Zealander & Agriculturalist
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It seems like that would sexually condition a person to the point that all they like is drawn loli porn, and couldn't get it up for real little girls, or drawn women, at all.

Not a fan of porn, it seems to lead to niche sexual conditioning, that's why we have autogynophiles, and car fuckers. Expect to see more paraphilias and more lolcows in future years\decades.
 
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ThrowawayMCL

Far worse than you.
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I have a lot to say but know I'm a degenerate and can't say anything to change it.

but...

>Is liking loli bad?
No. Like everything, it depends on the person. There is a layer of uncanny valley to loli that even makes me cringe but art or drawing are harmless and views are subjective to the morals of the viewer. I like a art style, and while saying liking loli makes you a pedo or sick fuck is solely based on how you are, to the normal person it is.

Personally, I'm against censorship and people should be able to enjoy whatever the hell they like but because of how the world is and the stereotypes of its target demographic to the average person it's bad. I don't think loli is bad; I think the fanbase is bad. I think people who use it to enable pedophile behaviors is bad and the problem is theses people will use any excuse to enable their ability to legally jack off to kids.

From my point of view, it's just a tag or a way of drawing 2d porn(like moeblobs). I grew up with loli and never saw it as bad until I grew up.

To the pedophile in denial it's a legal ground to fantasize about fucking unrealistically drawn kids. The problem starts when you can't determine what's real and if youre using loli to enact your dark pleasure. I got into loli at a young age, thinking it was 'porn for kids' and when i grew up I one day had a moment of 'oh shit, this is pedophilia smut." I guess you can say I'm in denial but to me it's simply misunderstood porn and the fandom doesn't help it.

If you think it's a problem or it starts to warp your Morales, stop or seek help!

TLDR: Liking loli isn't bad but ask why you like it before denying why you like it.
 

Cedric_Eff

No secret, it's the meat. Don't skimp on the meat.
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Honestly I don’t give a fuck if you draw furry porn or Loli. But it still doesn’t mean it’s okay to draw it. You’re still fucked no matter what.
 
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DtoDab

Patient Artist, Calmly watching
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Man, as long as it's not real I don't give a shit about what some artist draws.

Is not like I can prevent people from imagining things and drawing whatever they want, so why sperg over it anyway?

As long as you are not drawing a real person that actually can sue you then I don't give a fuck about what some anime moeblob some fucko wants to jack off to.
 

Toilet Man

Whirlwind of Incoherent Bullshit
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Does loli porn fuel desires that lead to attempting human interaction? Surely regular hentai fuels a desire to fuck other (young) adults?
 

Gentle George

Competitive nut-sucker
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yes you're still jerkin your gherkin to the thought of waens in sexual situations. fapping to loli makes you a pedo, either outright or by proxy.
 
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