I Don't feel welcome with the right nor left. - What can you do when both sides suck?

Deodar

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The right ain't as bad as the left makes it out to be, in all honesty. In my experience, most racists you'll come across are on the more extreme ends of the spectrum, and even then, they're rare. You'll find racists on either end though, conservatives hate mexicans for shitting up wherever they immigrate, and lefties hate them for not being black enough/"emulating black culture".
Ultimately, out of the two, lefties are far worse. There's a culture among them that being lib is not lib enough, and they'll drag you down until you're so brainwashed you start identifying as a demigirl demonkin trans activist.
 

MrJokerRager

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The best advice has already been given here; if you want to be political, make decisions on your own and remain a free-agent. But it's just not worth caring about.
Took to realist at 19 that both parties are shit especially after how the GOP screwed the rules against Ron Paul which played a role in letting Trump win the nomination as those rules backfired and Obama in his 2nd term was a giant disappointment. Switched from republican to democrat and now I just stay independent. Good thing I have never donated in my life to any political candidate, but I have volunteered for voter drives and local politics has a bigger impact than national.
 

5ever a crab

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The right ain't as bad as the left makes it out to be, in all honesty. In my experience, most racists you'll come across are on the more extreme ends of the spectrum, and even then, they're rare. You'll find racists on either end though, conservatives hate mexicans for shitting up wherever they immigrate, and lefties hate them for not being black enough/"emulating black culture".
Ultimately, out of the two, lefties are far worse. There's a culture among them that being lib is not lib enough, and they'll drag you down until you're so brainwashed you start identifying as a demigirl demonkin trans activist.
When the "alt-right" says they want an entho-state, they mean that they just want their own nation where they can celebrate their own cultures and such. People counter this (in my country for instance) of how America was initially populated by Natives or the melting pot culture; but the country was able to be what it is today because of innovations and inventions made by the white American people. But that history is more ancient to now and no one feels the need to invade other countries anymore except 3rd worlders.
Like the Murdoch-Murdoch clip about race, its not completely about 'being the superior race' but rather more focused on the individual's personal self-improvements etc. Maybe a few will suck on their own farts or be obnoxiously egotistical, but those kinds of people are crabs-in-the-bucket types that will try to flex on any stupid trait they have because they're insecure.
In reality humans are greedy and controlling, but humans can also fight for survival.
 
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Knojkamarangasan_#4

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That’s easy. Just embrace absurdism. Nothing will get better, why waste time on political sperging when you can laugh at psychotic trannies or schizophrenic musicians all day? In the end, what matters if you’re able to make a living or not, get cash and enjoy yourself?

We’re all gonna die either way, why not have some fun the meantime? At least that’s how I see it.
 

snailslime

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I feel you OP. My (((people))) also trigger both sides of the spectrum. I just vote for whoever sounds the most mentally sane, as does the silent majority. Most people I meet (who are successful in life) don't even devote their lives to/care about politics
 
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Pissmaster General

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Most people I meet (who are successful in life) don't even devote their lives to/care about politics
Yeah, that. The people I know who are the most into politics either don't have anything else going on in their lives, don't have a hobby, or are idiots from California who feel the need to virtue signal like they've got a bomb implant in their skull that'll explode if they don't every 24 hours.
 

Save the Loli

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I get banned in some places for being an "alt-righter", "misogynist", "bigot", or "racist" because I oppose immigration, feminism, most transgender/queer/tumblr shit, and SJW stances on race but I get called a communist, SJW, or libtard on places like this and 4chan because I believe all races are equal, don't believe in some right-wing narratives on American/world history, believe we need to do something about climate change, and support some level of wealth redistribution/welfare and universal healthcare. I can't vote for the Democrats because they hate me for being a white male and can't vote for the Republicans because they hate me for not being a multi-millionaire business owner. Both parties are run by warmongering neocons who want to start a war with Russia and/or Iran and suck Israeli/Saudi cock all day. I wish there was a candidate with the social positions of a Donald Trump who actually did something about Muslims and immigrants with the economic positions of 2016 Bernie Sanders (maybe with less "let's copy Scandinavia" and something a bit more realistic).

But I feel more welcome here because I'm actually allowed to discuss these topics without immediately being banned like I would be on 95% of the rest of the internet. I just wish there was a place on the political spectrum for "socially conservative economically liberal" people like me. Although I guess views like mine are more common in Europe where the right-wing actually knows that neoliberalism and globalism is fucking them in the ass.
 

Fagatron

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Former lefties should definitely be wary of actually voting for right wing parties. The populist anti-free trade and pro-free speech stuff is held by many conservatives but the core of conservatism and its leadership is still neocons who want religious-based morality laws.
This takes some investigation for wherever you live. There are countries like this where this is very much the case, but there are many others where it's the left that has the hardline religious core.

The United Kingdom is probably the prime example of this at the moment. Several religious groups, notably the British Muslim Council, command or at very least encourage members to vote for the Labor party which in turn has begun to promote certain Theocratic positions (destroy Israel, Jews are bad, Shi'ii are bad, Christians are persecutors etc). In contrast to the Conservative and Brexit parties; the former was the one who brought in things like Gay Marriage and while they have religious members are, as a party policy, indifferent on the social issues Southern US Christians would usually scream about.

If you're in the US then yeah, you're fucked.
 
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Slap47

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This takes some investigation for wherever you live. There are countries like this where this is very much the case, but there are many others where it's the left that has the hardline religious core.

The United Kingdom is probably the prime example of this at the moment. Several religious groups, notably the British Muslim Council, command or at very least encourage members to vote for the Labor party which in turn has begun to promote certain Theocratic positions (destroy Israel, Jews are bad, Shi'ii are bad, Christians are persecutors etc). In contrast to the Conservative and Brexit parties; the former was the one who brought in things like Gay Marriage and while they have religious members are, as a party policy, indifferent on the social issues Southern US Christians would usually scream about.

If you're in the US then yeah, you're fucked.
Most British Conservative MPs are anti-Brexit, pro-censorship. Kinda why they focus on banning porn and hate speech or why all of the right-wing tabloids hate Dankula.
 
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Fagatron

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Most British Conservative MPs are anti-Brexit, pro-censorship. Kinda why they focus on banning porn and hate speech or why all of the right-wing tabloids hate Dankula.
They might be both of those things, but these positions aren't based on religious cores which is what I highlighted.

They're values we might not like, but they're not based on what offends the voice in a tranny's head or the magic sky unicorn thinks.
 
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Slap47

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They might be both of those things, but these positions aren't based on religious cores which is what I highlighted.

They're values we might not like, but they're not based on what offends the voice in a tranny's head or the magic sky unicorn thinks
The Jewish councils lead the charge against Dankula and the anti-porn/speech laws are mainly focused around issues sensitive to religious fundamentalism (criticism of religion and porn).
 

Fagatron

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The Jewish councils lead the charge against Dankula and the anti-porn/speech laws are mainly focused around issues sensitive to religious fundamentalism (criticism of religion and porn).
Dankula got a kick in the pants because he fell foul of EU legislation which brings huge sentences against anyone doing anything, even non-political, that uses Nazi symbols and ideologies in any context from satire to politics that gets haphazardly applied in the UK. The UK actually has been criticized several times by the EU for not enforcing these rules, not created in Britain, strongly enough.

If he'd done that elsewhere in the EU he'd have done jail time. The Jews being offended didn't help one way or the other with that, the EU's anti-Nazi laws would have done him in anyway.

You don't have to be religious to be against porn; I've very anti porn in some respects (lolifags belong in bodybags) and very anti religious as well. This might seem remarkable to an American, but again, for Europe this isn't shocking.

It's actually Corbyn's party staffed with the likes of Jess Phillips who have been the most vocal supporters of religion and likewise the loudest critics of "crimes against women" (porn and sexual expression).

The porn firewall is not the brainchild of the right, this was being discussed back under the previous governments as well.
 
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MembersSchoolPizza

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The right ain't as bad as the left makes it out to be, in all honesty. In my experience, most racists you'll come across are on the more extreme ends of the spectrum, and even then, they're rare. You'll find racists on either end though,
Yeah, this notion that the left is in any way less racist than the right is absurd. They're just differently racist. The right has honest hatred. The left has condescension, derision, and infantalism. Yeah, a racist on the right will look at a black thug who's got a slew of illegitimate children, no prospects, and a rap sheet a mile long and call him a worthless nigger. A lefty won't do that, no. A lefty will just assume that the black man is incapable of being a functioning member of society without the Great White Savior Race to guide him along, and when he stumbles, it's not his fault - you just can't expect anything more out of a black man, because REASONS. Ironically I think it was dubya who coined the phrase, "the soft bigotry of low expectations", but it basically describes the left's racism perfectly.
 
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