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Dr. Geronimo

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Mike Pondsmith wrote an article about the George Floyd/BLM shit back in June, don't think anyone ever talked about it.

https://rtalsoriangames.com/2020/06/12/mike-pondsmith-cops-and-racists/

So. Here we are.

First, I’ll answer the question you think you want to ask me but really don’t want to ask me. Yeah, I’ve been pulled over by cops more times than I care to remember. And at least once, I was pretty sure the cop (who was off duty at the time and flagged me into a deserted street area) was planning to pound me for no reason until he found out that I was friends with a ton of local cops who were going to investigate whatever happened to me. And there was the period when the local cops decided to pretty much harass me whenever they saw me; until I mentioned it to a friend who was the City Councilman in charge of police oversight–and then, miraculously, it was like a magical “don’t mess with this guy” bubble appeared around me from then on.

But I’m one of the lucky ones. I’m a black guy with friends who are cops and LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers) of all stripes. I also know some pretty high-powered people who guard my back. I’m not a relatively faceless black guy just minding my own business when some cop gets an urge to bust heads or some “Karen” decides to release her inner racist because she just can’t help it but she really isn’t a racist at all and she wouldn’t have done that, really. Even so, there’s no safe level of being black in America. You could be a senator; a famous actor, a brilliant scientist or even the recipient of the Nobel Prize, but to the supremacist with a badge, or the secret racist who really doesn’t want to consider the idea that someone who doesn’t look like them could actually be a living, breathing human being with hopes, dreams and rights just like they have, you are a target. Every single case I have just described has happened in this so-called post racial America. It’s just that a lot of people would rather just pretend it isn’t happening.

But here’s something I want to tell those of you who think the color of their skin makes them safe. “Your” cops are out of control. They don’t care about who they work for anymore. Like the cops in Cyberpunk, they work for themselves. They have weapons, power and invulnerability that has been granted to them because of the devil’s deal the people in power made with them since the 90’s.

You take care of the people we’re trying to keep control of, and we will give you whatever you want.

Most of the cops I know retired out long ago. They were good cops. They honored the Badge. But there’s a reason they got out when they did. They tell me that policing has changed. They tell me about the corrupt guys who are dealing drugs, seizing property and acting like street gangsters. They tell me about the heavy steroid use that is turning some cops into ‘roid raging monsters. They tell me about the guys who didn’t have the cojones to join up to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan who are now playing “soldier” on the streets of America instead. They describe the sadists who figure a badge gives them the right to beat in the heads of anyone who “crosses” them. They emphasize with the cops who are basically good guys who joined up to be the heroes and protectors of their neighborhoods, but who are ground down by their corrupt gangster wannabe co-workers, the police unions who shield the bad guys no matter what they do, and the higher ups who still subscribe to that devil’s bargain.

You take care of the people we’re trying to keep control of, and we will give you whatever you want.

There’s an old saying: First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

If you think police brutality isn’t going to get to you, you’d better reconsider. Because the flip side of that devil’s deal is that any of us can be lumped into the groups that the people in power want to keep control of. They aren’t your cops; they’re the people in power’s cops. And those people will use them against you just the same as they have used them against black people. They’re already beating, gassing and shooting all kinds of American citizens in the streets; black, white, Asian; you pick a group and I can probably show you a half dozen videos to prove my point. They’re even attacking the press; who, more than anyone, are supposed to be sacrosanct in a free society. Because in the end, this is what it’s all about; Control. Terror. Domination. Enforcing the authoritarian doctrines of the people who want, need and crave power.

If you don’t believe me, maybe you should read this article from a real cop: https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759

I’ve known a bad cop just like this guy personally. I thought he was an okay guy. I was wrong.

It’s been about twenty years; he’s probably out of prison by now.

When I wrote Cyberpunk many years ago, I meant it as a warning, not an aspiration. Of what happens when Power, Money, and Ruthlessness combine. Of what happens when the America you think you know morphs into a tyrannical state that combines the worst of corporate excess with the worst of authoritarian tendencies. We’re speeding on the way towards that Dark Future right now, and the color of your skin, or the money in your bank account are not going to spare you. It’s time to wake up; to face down the people who want in the end, to enslave all of us.

So where do we go from here? Here are a few goals to start:

  1. Establish strong national laws prohibiting false, racially motivated reporting to police. Many states already have laws to that effect; we just need to enforce them. If Karen realizes she will face a felony charge for “weaponizing” the police on her behalf, she’s going to stop that pronto.
  2. Break or otherwise renegotiate current contracts with police unions. Right now, the biggest obstacle towards better policing are the police unions. They obstruct their political bosses at every turn, as well as fight legitimate DOJ oversight. They also cover for bad cops and allow them to move from department to department unhindered, spreading corrupt policing wherever they go. The implied threat of “blue flu” or an outright walkout is the way police unions force city governments to accept these contracts. In the Mob, they call this a “protection racket.” Is this how we want to ensure our cities have good policing? Think about it.
  3. Demilitarize police by prohibiting the sale of surplus military hardware to departments. In the early 2000’s, the military realized that it could offload old or out of date equipment to police departments at a pittance of value. But an armored assault vehicle from the Vietnam Era is just as effective as ever when you’re using it against civilian targets. Are we planning to fight a house to house war on our own citizens? If we are, it’s time to stop that now.
  4. Establish a strong national group equivalent to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, but dedicated to police oversight and transparency. As a unified group, they will be able to bring the money and clout needed to force departments to return to fair, uncorrupted, non-racially biased policing. A good start will be to establish a national database of “bad cops” so that they are unable to move around from department to department.
Here’s are a lot of organizations to support getting the above goals underway. Look at who they are and what they need and ask yourself how you can help.

https://fundersforjustice.org/organizations/

I can’t vouch for all of them. But you’ve gotta start somewhere.

I don’t care what your skin color is or what your orientations are. This a fight all of us have a stake in. This is our future, and the future of our children and grandchildren. And if you fail them, in the end, they will be the ones who will judge you. Remember; the Cyberpunk future is a warning; not an aspiration. Whether we hear the warning is up to you.
TLDR BitTorrent is the place to go for this game.
 

Ginger Piglet

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Demilitarize police by prohibiting the sale of surplus military hardware to departments. In the early 2000’s, the military realized that it could offload old or out of date equipment to police departments at a pittance of value. But an armored assault vehicle from the Vietnam Era is just as effective as ever when you’re using it against civilian targets. Are we planning to fight a house to house war on our own citizens? If we are, it’s time to stop that now.

There is a point here. I've never understood why burger police have so much tacticool gear. Or why they need armoured cars or similar. There's a perception that crims are getting bigger guns and more hardware of their own but I'm not sure how accurate that perception is.
 

Ruin

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There is a point here. I've never understood why burger police have so much tacticool gear. Or why they need armoured cars or similar. There's a perception that crims are getting bigger guns and more hardware of their own but I'm not sure how accurate that perception is.

It's an overreaction to this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

It was one of the first police shootouts where the criminals were armed with fully automatic rifles and full body armor. They completely destroyed the cops who were armed only with revolvers.
 

samuraicrack

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There is a point here. I've never understood why burger police have so much tacticool gear.

They're mostly donated from the military for free when the army has surplus supplies. If you want cops to stop being militarized, take it up with the boys in green.

Dr. Geronimo said:
TLDR BitTorrent is the place to go for this game.
It's a dumb article but at least he recognizes that not all cops are pieces of shit even if he kind of upends his own point near the end by referencing an article that pretty much contradicts everything else he said.
 

Dreamer

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Mike Pondsmith wrote an article about the George Floyd/BLM shit back in June, don't think anyone ever talked about it.

https://rtalsoriangames.com/2020/06/12/mike-pondsmith-cops-and-racists/

So. Here we are.

First, I’ll answer the question you think you want to ask me but really don’t want to ask me. Yeah, I’ve been pulled over by cops more times than I care to remember. And at least once, I was pretty sure the cop (who was off duty at the time and flagged me into a deserted street area) was planning to pound me for no reason until he found out that I was friends with a ton of local cops who were going to investigate whatever happened to me. And there was the period when the local cops decided to pretty much harass me whenever they saw me; until I mentioned it to a friend who was the City Councilman in charge of police oversight–and then, miraculously, it was like a magical “don’t mess with this guy” bubble appeared around me from then on.

But I’m one of the lucky ones. I’m a black guy with friends who are cops and LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers) of all stripes. I also know some pretty high-powered people who guard my back. I’m not a relatively faceless black guy just minding my own business when some cop gets an urge to bust heads or some “Karen” decides to release her inner racist because she just can’t help it but she really isn’t a racist at all and she wouldn’t have done that, really. Even so, there’s no safe level of being black in America. You could be a senator; a famous actor, a brilliant scientist or even the recipient of the Nobel Prize, but to the supremacist with a badge, or the secret racist who really doesn’t want to consider the idea that someone who doesn’t look like them could actually be a living, breathing human being with hopes, dreams and rights just like they have, you are a target. Every single case I have just described has happened in this so-called post racial America. It’s just that a lot of people would rather just pretend it isn’t happening.

But here’s something I want to tell those of you who think the color of their skin makes them safe. “Your” cops are out of control. They don’t care about who they work for anymore. Like the cops in Cyberpunk, they work for themselves. They have weapons, power and invulnerability that has been granted to them because of the devil’s deal the people in power made with them since the 90’s.

You take care of the people we’re trying to keep control of, and we will give you whatever you want.

Most of the cops I know retired out long ago. They were good cops. They honored the Badge. But there’s a reason they got out when they did. They tell me that policing has changed. They tell me about the corrupt guys who are dealing drugs, seizing property and acting like street gangsters. They tell me about the heavy steroid use that is turning some cops into ‘roid raging monsters. They tell me about the guys who didn’t have the cojones to join up to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan who are now playing “soldier” on the streets of America instead. They describe the sadists who figure a badge gives them the right to beat in the heads of anyone who “crosses” them. They emphasize with the cops who are basically good guys who joined up to be the heroes and protectors of their neighborhoods, but who are ground down by their corrupt gangster wannabe co-workers, the police unions who shield the bad guys no matter what they do, and the higher ups who still subscribe to that devil’s bargain.

You take care of the people we’re trying to keep control of, and we will give you whatever you want.

There’s an old saying: First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

If you think police brutality isn’t going to get to you, you’d better reconsider. Because the flip side of that devil’s deal is that any of us can be lumped into the groups that the people in power want to keep control of. They aren’t your cops; they’re the people in power’s cops. And those people will use them against you just the same as they have used them against black people. They’re already beating, gassing and shooting all kinds of American citizens in the streets; black, white, Asian; you pick a group and I can probably show you a half dozen videos to prove my point. They’re even attacking the press; who, more than anyone, are supposed to be sacrosanct in a free society. Because in the end, this is what it’s all about; Control. Terror. Domination. Enforcing the authoritarian doctrines of the people who want, need and crave power.

If you don’t believe me, maybe you should read this article from a real cop: https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759

I’ve known a bad cop just like this guy personally. I thought he was an okay guy. I was wrong.

It’s been about twenty years; he’s probably out of prison by now.

When I wrote Cyberpunk many years ago, I meant it as a warning, not an aspiration. Of what happens when Power, Money, and Ruthlessness combine. Of what happens when the America you think you know morphs into a tyrannical state that combines the worst of corporate excess with the worst of authoritarian tendencies. We’re speeding on the way towards that Dark Future right now, and the color of your skin, or the money in your bank account are not going to spare you. It’s time to wake up; to face down the people who want in the end, to enslave all of us.

So where do we go from here? Here are a few goals to start:

  1. Establish strong national laws prohibiting false, racially motivated reporting to police. Many states already have laws to that effect; we just need to enforce them. If Karen realizes she will face a felony charge for “weaponizing” the police on her behalf, she’s going to stop that pronto.
  2. Break or otherwise renegotiate current contracts with police unions. Right now, the biggest obstacle towards better policing are the police unions. They obstruct their political bosses at every turn, as well as fight legitimate DOJ oversight. They also cover for bad cops and allow them to move from department to department unhindered, spreading corrupt policing wherever they go. The implied threat of “blue flu” or an outright walkout is the way police unions force city governments to accept these contracts. In the Mob, they call this a “protection racket.” Is this how we want to ensure our cities have good policing? Think about it.
  3. Demilitarize police by prohibiting the sale of surplus military hardware to departments. In the early 2000’s, the military realized that it could offload old or out of date equipment to police departments at a pittance of value. But an armored assault vehicle from the Vietnam Era is just as effective as ever when you’re using it against civilian targets. Are we planning to fight a house to house war on our own citizens? If we are, it’s time to stop that now.
  4. Establish a strong national group equivalent to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, but dedicated to police oversight and transparency. As a unified group, they will be able to bring the money and clout needed to force departments to return to fair, uncorrupted, non-racially biased policing. A good start will be to establish a national database of “bad cops” so that they are unable to move around from department to department.
Here’s are a lot of organizations to support getting the above goals underway. Look at who they are and what they need and ask yourself how you can help.

https://fundersforjustice.org/organizations/

I can’t vouch for all of them. But you’ve gotta start somewhere.

I don’t care what your skin color is or what your orientations are. This a fight all of us have a stake in. This is our future, and the future of our children and grandchildren. And if you fail them, in the end, they will be the ones who will judge you. Remember; the Cyberpunk future is a warning; not an aspiration. Whether we hear the warning is up to you.
Thanks for bringing politics back into my bideo game discussion, its not like i'm sick to death of hearing about burgers and their shitshow of a country. Jesus christ can we have one thing without mixing it with shit daily? Gimmie hats, i'm right.
The article isn't even that bad, just opinionated. The guy clearly recognizes his bias and tries to voice his opinions in a reasonable way.
 

Ginger Piglet

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Thanks for bringing politics back into my bideo game discussion, its not like i'm sick to death of hearing about burgers and their shitshow of a country. Jesus christ can we have one thing without mixing it with shit daily? Gimmie hats, i'm right.
The article isn't even that bad, just opinionated. The guy clearly recognizes his bias and tries to voice his opinions in a reasonable way.

Kinda say, I agree with this. "Police corruption and racism exists" is a long way from BLM's goals of defunding the police and demolishing capitalism.
 

samuraicrack

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The article isn't even that bad, just opinionated. The guy clearly recognizes his bias and tries to voice his opinions in a reasonable way.
Not really, it's the same generic "black people are oppressed by racists hiding behind every corner and you're not safe even with a billion dollars" type rhetoric with weird constant flip-flopping between the police attacking people in general regardless of race or police attacking people because of their racial identity. 2020 has broken most people's brains and while I like Cyberpunk, Pondsmith isn't an exception. He just comes off as a dumb alarmist like most people way too online are nowadays.
 

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hate to be that fag, but Mike Pondsmith's cyberpunk was always p political
and to be honest i dont fault him on his stance pertaining to BLM and such given that he is infact a based negroid.
 

Ruin

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hate to be that fag, but Mike Pondsmith's cyberpunk was always p political
and to be honest i dont fault him on his stance pertaining to BLM and such given that he is infact a based negroid.

Mike Pondsmith is a nerdy college educated black man from a middle class family. His chances of being shot by the police are basically zero since he's not out raping women and robbing gas stations.

This is the distinction BLM and ANTIFA really really really do not want you to notice.
 

Aquinas

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Mike Pondsmith is a nerdy college educated black man from a middle class family. His chances of being shot by the police are basically zero since he's not out raping women and robbing gas stations.

This is the distinction BLM and ANTIFA really really really do not want you to notice.
and you're a fag, but i dont go into theads and point out irrelevant info like that now do i?
 

White Devil

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Mike Pondsmith is a nerdy college educated black man from a middle class family. His chances of being shot by the police are basically zero since he's not out raping women and robbing gas stations.

This is the distinction BLM and ANTIFA really really really do not want you to notice.

Actual niggers fucking despise middle class blacks because they "act white". As in, they're not total animals.
 

2020Suicide

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It's an overreaction to this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

It was one of the first police shootouts where the criminals were armed with fully automatic rifles and full body armor. They completely destroyed the cops who were armed only with revolvers.
you're about 2 decades too late. it started with the drug wars in miami in the 70s. immigrants with uzis killing 1000 people a year vs cops with revolvers. You could pretty much guess who won those fights. People forget how shit the US was, they didn't come up with SWAT out of no where, they created it because shit was that bad.

Crime was so bad that people treated cops the same way people treat superheros nowadays. being a cop from Detroit made Eddie Murphy seem as powerfulfunny/cool as Thor
 

Ahriman

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Senior level designer addressing feature removal

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Ruin

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The feature removal being the robot companion, multiple apartments, the fancy closet, wall running, vehicle customization, and third-person cutscenes right? Did I miss anything?

If that list the robot and vehicle customization would probably be the things I'm bummed about loosing.

Yea it's not quite the same as TW3. TW3 cut a few minor quest lines and some enemies like dryads. Cutting out third person cutscenes and vehicle customization late in development is a bigger deal. I'm still planning on getting the game but it's not the same thing.
 

Dreamer

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Yea it's not quite the same as TW3. TW3 cut a few minor quest lines and some enemies like dryads. Cutting out third person cutscenes and vehicle customization late in development is a bigger deal. I'm still planning on getting the game but it's not the same thing.
Features can be cut at every stage of development, the timeframe barely matters (unless its like a month before release or some silly shit like that).
As for 3rd person cutscenes i recall them saying something about how they had a dozen of them planned in the entire game anyways, doesn't sound like such a big deal to me if that's true.
For some reason they don't let the player customize cars anymore, but cars are still customized, that doesn't sound like a technical issue so its probably something else. Balance? Who knows.
 

Snekposter

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you're about 2 decades too late. it started with the drug wars in miami in the 70s. immigrants with uzis killing 1000 people a year vs cops with revolvers. You could pretty much guess who won those fights. People forget how shit the US was, they didn't come up with SWAT out of no where, they created it because shit was that bad.

Crime was so bad that people treated cops the same way people treat superheros nowadays. being a cop from Detroit made Eddie Murphy seem as powerfulfunny/cool as Thor
People should also keep in mind that Chicago is still that bad. I'd need to double-check numbers, but a random guesttimate says we're around 4,000-4,500 dead Americans in 18 years of war in the MidEast. If we assume that Chicago gangbangers have killed on average 1.5 people per day (not unreasonable, IMO), over that same 18 years you have just over 9,800 dead Americans. Its unironically safer to be a US soldier in an active warzone than to be some random person in the bad parts of Chicago.
 

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Yea it's not quite the same as TW3. TW3 cut a few minor quest lines and some enemies like dryads. Cutting out third person cutscenes and vehicle customization late in development is a bigger deal. I'm still planning on getting the game but it's not the same thing.

They probably cut quests and enemies from 2020 too, we just won't notice given they only showed us the main quest so far.

People should also keep in mind that Chicago is still that bad. I'd need to double-check numbers, but a random guesttimate says we're around 4,000-4,500 dead Americans in 18 years of war in the MidEast. If we assume that Chicago gangbangers have killed on average 1.5 people per day (not unreasonable, IMO), over that same 18 years you have just over 9,800 dead Americans. Its unironically safer to be a US soldier in an active warzone than to be some random person in the bad parts of Chicago.

That isn't how statistics work :V
 
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People should also keep in mind that Chicago is still that bad. I'd need to double-check numbers, but a random guesttimate says we're around 4,000-4,500 dead Americans in 18 years of war in the MidEast. If we assume that Chicago gangbangers have killed on average 1.5 people per day (not unreasonable, IMO), over that same 18 years you have just over 9,800 dead Americans. Its unironically safer to be a US soldier in an active warzone than to be some random person in the bad parts of Chicago.
The difference is that Chicago is able to effectively quarantine the bad parts to a few blocks. A soldier could die at any time in Afghanistan.

Thats a big part of what blackpilled Tim Pool (a Chicago native) he understood what police were able to do so that people could still feel safe despite the headlines and that as long as he didnt roam into one small neighborhood he was ok but because euros didnt have 400 years experience dealing with nigs they were letting them fuck everything up everywhere. He felt less safe in sweden than in the southside of chicago.
 
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